Jiren will have Powerful Opponent z ability for sure, Jiren doesn't have God ki, he Is simply strong af. He does not have the ability t o use God Ki. Consumes half a Ki gauge. Post by theherodjl » Fri Mar 09, 2018 8:33 am I guess so, I can't recall a moment where a normal Ki user like Roshi, Krillin, or Tenshinhan stated that they could sense Jiren's Ki so I guess he's got some Godly power. Information, guides, tips, news, fan art, questions and everything else Dragon Ball Legends. The Ki of gods is explicitly referred to in a separate sense from that of mortals. Press J to jump to the feed. I feel for the reason that Jiren is the strongest in Universe 11 he would be spending time with the GoD himself and potentially just kinda gained a god ki essence secondhandly maybe. Jiren's red-colored Aura. That is God category,by that logic both golden frieza and hit should be on the category. 1. share. It is in a sense a indication one can increase their overall power yes but no actual multiple increases on a linear scale more on a exponential scale. While both the anime and manga delve into Jiren's backstory, neither adaptation of Dragon Ball Super fully fleshes out the Pride Trooper. So Goku was at full power when fighting Jiren. What else comes after Super Saiyan Blue. Jiren has never been shown using god ki or stated to have god ki. God Form [edit | edit source] As the name would imply, this form will give you access to the God Form ability. Since Super Saiyan Rage uses the God Ki derived from Super Saiyan Blue, it can be assumed that some of the Ki rubbed off on Trunks during his training with Vegeta. He powers up to Super saiyan blue and adds kaioken times 20. That's all premium natural Jiren as far as we know. These forms are currently the 2nd strongest in the game. 7 Results 8 Travia 9 Poll God of War vs Dragon Ball Z! We know Jiren doesn't have god ki as his energy is felt by all the other contestants. If he doesn't than it don't makes sense. At no point during the entire Tournament of Power did anyone have issues sensing Jiren's power, even when he pushed himself in a limit-breaking state. Call it another shitty retcon, but going by this Kami should’ve possessed God Ki as well, however small the amount might have been. When a user focuses their ki, it manifests outside their physical body in the form of energy that can interact with the outside world, displacing solid matter among different effects. Toppo changing the entire look of the world of void with his power due to being a candidate to a God of Destruction.-Jiren shocking the world of void, being noted as stronger than a god of destruction while lacking God Ki.-Zenos destroying universes like nothing, then they use the super dragon balls to revive them. , beating a deity isn’t a easy task , especially for a mortal , but these two have been shown to be able to despite their mortality!. Akira obviously abandoned this attribute for God ki. God ki is a unique type of ki utilized by entities who are deities, such as Hakaishin and Kaiōshin, or those who can transform into deities, such as Saiyans who possess a transformation in the Super Saiyan God line of forms. He isnt a god but his base power is so strong that he can challenge a god. If we put Jiren in the T.O.P he should be an automatic UI user and should remain so through the entire tournament until defeated. UI only lasts for player characters for one battle. Jiren is in the Realm of God's on Dokkan but that doesn't mean he has God Ki it just means he's on the level of GoD's. See also: God Ki. User Info: AlphaBoy. It was stated multiple times that Jiren transcend all of time itself which means his powers are beyond the flow of time itself. He hits jiren a couple more times before he backs off and moves up to super saiyan god. Jiren is the reason Kale could barely do any damage while Berserk; Jiren is the reason Goku unlocked Ultra Instinct and knocked out Kefla; and Jiren is the reason Hit foolishly got knocked out before he could make a … User Info: Rexzor. Dragon Ball Super moves into somewhat tricky territory once it brings in Gods of Destruction and other ultra-powered deities. RELATED: 10 Crazy Dragon Ball Fan Theories That Make No Sense. Dragon Ball: 10 Questions We Still Have About Jiren. You're browsing the GameFAQs Message Boards as a guest. Does he have it on Dokkan? Rexzor 2 years ago #4. Jiren is in Realm of Gods which is reserved for characters that are related to Gods or possess God Ki. (air OK) 1334 All — — Deals more damage, has more range and a bigger radius. Saiyan, Yellow: Come on! Jiren does not seem to work well with them G: Jiren was seen as a rock, the strongest of the Tournament of Power and the greatest obstacle there was to face from all sides of the Universe. And jiren's so strong even in regular state that he just surges out pressure waves/pressure constantly so that everybody feels his presence. In the manga Beerus and universe 3 god of destruction are stronger than the rest of the gods, while Jiren is only stated to be stronger than a god Belmod which has nothing to do with the other gods that are stronger than Belmod. Add photo 1 Intrude 2 Intro 3 Jiren 4 Kratos 5 Prefight 6 Death Battle! It gives him 4 new cards,50 Ki, restores his vanish, gives him 20% strike damage inflicted, and locks opponents in for 5 counts. It’s not even needed because we saw what Jiren was able to go toe-to-toe with Goku and his Kaioken blue form as well as Vegeta and his powerful forms. Jiren doesn't have God Ki. Re: Does Jiren have god ki? Beerus himself was shocked that Jiren was able to release as much energy as he did, despite being only a … Old Kai Unlock [edit | edit source] Old Kai Unlock is needed to go Gohan's Mystic form. Possessing a powerful sense of justice, Jiren devotes everything in justice and never acts for selfish reasons. No. The range of the blows is increased slightly and deals more damage, along with offering stronger knockback. Godly Ki-Mastery: Jiren can change the nature of his Ki to that of the gods, increasing power drastically. AlphaBoy 2 years ago #2. yeah. Jiren being stronger than his GoD does not mean that he can do the same as him, Toppo said he was stronger in combat, Jiren cannot use the ability with which Belmod attacked the other GoDs, you need to prove that Belmod's stats are somewhat close to Beerus's to say that Jiren is not a fodder to the strongest GoDs like Beerus or Quitela. If you don't need god ki to beat god ki characters, what significance does a character having god ki have?Special cases like Broly and Freeza. It doesn't matter in the slightest regular ki users can just train for a few months and be just as strong as god ki users just look at Frieza and Android 17. If Toppo has it then Jiren should 100% have it too. And that's the point of Jiren: it doesn't matter if you're a God. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. It really is one of the best Special Arts in the entire game and can be used to turn the tide of battle. Toppo does because he's trained to be the next GoD. Jiren does not have god ki so you can not scale him to that feat. Does he have it on Dokkan? Did they ever state that Jiren has god ki? Jiren is also said to be more powerful than a God of Destruction. If it were merely a level, then the Kaioshin shouldn't have God Ki given that they're inferior to Cell and Majin Buu, and Freeza and Jiren should have God Ki themselves. Jiren lifts an eyebrow as he never knew that a saiyan was able to use god ki. It has Realm of Gods which is for those that are gods or at the level of the gods. Let's keep this fight going! IkariTrunks 2 years ago #1. While it might be a shit amount, he literally says he does on panel. Do we know if anyone else in Jiren's race can get as strong as he did via training? Rexzor 2 years ago #4. As far as others sensing his ki and what not, that's almost become a mute point. These guys can also wreck God ki characters. When Goku turned SSJG at struck him, how did he detect the power of the transformation and raise his finger ? (air OK) 1334 All — — Deals more damage, has more range and a bigger radius. Hit isn't as physically strong as SSB. In promotional material for the anime Goku (in either Ultra Instinct -Sign-'s final usage or in this complete state) it is recognized by e… While the training isn’t meant to give Future Trunks God Ki, Vegeta does spar using Super Saiyan Blue. 1 Attack Dialogue 1.1 Special Moves 1.2 Super Attacks 1.3 Meteor Attack 2 Match Dialogues 2.1 Sparking 2.2 Team Dialogues 2.3 Match Reset 2.4 Shenron 3 Miscellaneous Dialogues 3.1 Character Selection 3.2 Intro 3.3 Victory 3.4 Defeat 3.5 Results Screen 4 Navigation Toppo has God Ki because he wants to become a GoD. Once a person has … ReportSave. The range of the blows is increased slightly and deals more damage, along with offering stronger knockback. Share Share Tweet Email. Dokkan doesn't have a God Ki category. 214H. Yes, I know this debate has been going on for a long-ass while. Even though he is so powerful, I think for him to truly achieve that power, … It’s not even needed because we saw what Jiren was able to go toe-to-toe with Goku and his Kaioken blue form as well as Vegeta and his powerful forms. Discussion. Nope. Future: Awakened You stay here! This is your go-to panic button. Hes not going to have the tag. 1: Future: Blast It! In this state, Goku's power skyrockets above what it was previously, making him the strongest he has ever been in history, ranking among the most powerful entities in the multiverse. This move sends the opponent tumbling into the air, allowing for more follow-up attacks. Multiple characters claimed to sense him as well. Nope. Rival Universe finally has a solid structure after Universe 11's arrival, which solidified the initial basis that the Trio De Danger built. SP Jiren’s Special Arts does it all, literally. This Team's Core isn't set in stone, on the contrary it's rather interchangeable, with Vados being the only real staple thanks to the way she can control Matches. Even Jiren doesn't appear to have the level of power to wipe out a planet in a single punch, the Gods of Destruction have the power to do it but these appear to be godly/divine powers that Jiren does not have. He wears the uniform of the Pride Troopers, consisting of a red, spandex-like suit with black sections around the collar and legs, white gloves, and white boots. It cannot be sensed by mortals — with only a few given exceptions — and is the highest tier of ki.. If not than that means he is nowhere near as strong as he could be. Even destruction Ki is no match for Jiren, which is evident when it’s said that Jiren is stronger than a God of Destruction and that’s worrying for … Jiren is a tall humanoid with an extremely muscular and well-defined build. 2 years ago. Are Other Members Of His Race As Powerful?In Dragon Ball, many characters belong to unique alien … 6.1 Fight! This dude also has no God ki from what we understand. Afterwards, Jiren was said to have been a mortal who has surpassed the Gods of Destruction in terms of strength. We don't know. It does have more startup lag, however. Everything about Dragon Ball Legends! Whis's statement is very clear. 6.2 Ko! I think Trunks does have some God Ki. 1 month ago . Nope. That's all premium natural Jiren as far as we know. He lives to protect Universe 11, even stating that he would leave the tournament while it was happening in order to return there if any problem arose in the 48 minutes of the tournament. No he has no god ki and no transformation and got that strong all on his own. Nope. no it's his own ki. Jiren doesn't have God ki, he just has a very powerful power level, like broly. Invincible from frame 1. With this power, Jiren can sense other people who has God-Ki such as the Super Saiyan God transformation. God Ki, Saiyan: Yes, let's go. So when he absorbed the spirit bomb, it gave him enough power to leap onto the next level of God energy or God Ki. God Ki, Vegeta Family: Power Unleashed: Future: A proud warrior! He has gray skin, big round black eyes with enlarged pupils, flat round ears, and a barely visible flat nose. 6.1 Fight! Gives extra Ki to the Max Ki. His ki was more powerful then those of a god but it was just his own, mortal power refined to perfection. Beating deities is hard , but not to these two! Cookies help us deliver our Services. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. User Info: SSJGPiccles. Privacy PolicyCookie SettingsDo Not Sell My InformationReport Ad. Well, if you think about it. It really is one of the best Special Arts in the entire game and can be used to turn the tide of battle. His Ki Blasts are all very good, but don't over use them only to be punished. Nope. SP Jiren’s Special Arts does it all, literally. If he doesn't than it don't makes sense. Jiren The Gray was introduced towards the very end of Dragon Ball Super's anime, during the Tournament of Power. Or if he has god ki it's just the same as when krillin and every other mortal could feel the immense pressure out of it. 0. If Toppo has it then Jiren should 100% have it too. If not than that means he is nowhere near as strong as he could be. It looked similar enough to suggest that he has unlocked some form of God Ki somehow. This version does allow for a Super Jump extension after a Smash 2H, thanks to the low recovery. Eredin12. Toppo won’t have god ki. Follow 14577. You'd expect it to be a big deal and worth mentioning either way. SSJGPiccles 2 years ago #3. However, Jiren isn't confirmed to have god ki, and it's stated a Hakaishin cannot defeat him, so I guess he can pull of the same feat as Vegeta did. In a world without Jiren, Universe 6 would have easily won the Tournament of Power. Multiple characters claimed to sense him as well. Jiren can endure Super Saiyan 5 Shido's God Kamehameha attack and remained unfazed by it. Will deal only recoverable blue health damage. like how U9 had their own ki that couldn't be sensed. Beating deities is hard , but not to these two! What about Jiren? Ok if Jiren had God Ki while it isn’t necessarily a power up exactly as some people think, it is a potent method of using ki without waste or radiating it away like super saiyan 3. We already know that Jiren has already achieved the power to surpass the gods of destruction. Jiren doesn't. Strength is Absolute". Forum Posts. Hit? Also to note, Saitama got kicked to the moon with zero injuries, nobody in DBS has that level of endurance. You just need to be stronger than the user of Hakai. Broly, Jiren, 17 and Frieza don't have God ki, yet can sense and counter it just fine. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. He was the only one who survived the attack from the androids (yeah, it was with Gohan's training but that doesn't matter) and he was the only one who could kill Fused Zamasu. Other Types of Ki. The "aura" of an individual is a general effect of ki being expressed outside the body, usually in the form of "powering up". 7 Results 8 Travia 9 Poll God of War vs Dragon Ball Z! Accordingly, here are the 20 Facts Only True Fans Know About Dragon Ball's Jiren. Full power Jiren (At least Low 2-C, more sources say his full power is above GoD level than his base). This is pretty much the scans I have since I'm too lazy to watch an entire 1 hour video. Jiren does not have god ki so you can not scale him to that feat. His ki was more powerful then those of a god but it was just his own, mortal power refined to perfection. No, Jiren has purely mortal ki. God Ki: He's mumbling to himself in fear. Top Team within the Rival Universe Tag. He has a large, sleek head similar in shape similar to the folkloric aliens known as the Greys. UI Versus Non-UI/ The non-UI user has to use the dice to see if they do any damage whatsoever, while the UI User does not have to roll the dice. Based on what we have seen, awakening the transformation Ultra Instinct is the only way to defeat this Universe 11 Pride Trooper. What he was fighting Jiren he was already in his Super Saiyan Blue form, covered by his Kaio Ken red aura. Jiren’s Power Level Yet, in the start, when Goku punched him in his SSJ forms, he didn't move. And then Burning Warrior Jiren would remain At least Low 2-C but clearly be superior to his previous full powered version. if jiren had god ki then they couldn't sense it and all the earthlings and everyone was able to sense it. 0. God Ki, Melee Type: Awakened Hold on to My Shoulder! How old is jiren, how many fights did he struggle in, what training does he have, what techniques does he know. Jiren is used to taking down others who he can read, telegraph, and then block before unleashing his own ungodly ki. Nope, Toppo has god ki when he transform into god of destruction, before that it’s his raw power, all the time Jiren show only raw power he got from training and doesn’t use god ki, Jiren probably get rival universe or powerful opponent plus boost his team (Pride Trooper I believe) tags. I would say Jiren should have god ki because he is appraised by the GoD himself, wouldnt be too far in assuming that he may have given him some, to power Jiren up even more or at least in a way. User Info: IkariTrunks. Add photo 1 Intrude 2 Intro 3 Jiren 4 Kratos 5 Prefight 6 Death Battle! Na mans straight up said that he got his power by himself, More posts from the DragonballLegends community. It is known that godly ki cannot be sensed by those who utilize only normal ki. By contrast, Jiren does not believe in teamwork or relying on allies. Jiren Doesn't Have Ultra Instinct. However, he’s so incredibly impressive that he can really use surf God ki. See title. Unfortunately for Champa, Dragon Ball Super does not take place in a world without Jiren. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. If you have the meter, it's a great tool to try and save Jiren, but is essentially a glorified DP. While he had lost everything, Jiren does not become evil and instead becomes an overall selfless and heroic, but distant and cold. 6.2 Ko! For this part, Ultra Instinct needs to be defined. As someone else said, Jiren is in Realm of Gods in Dokkan. By Lavell Sep 16, 2020. User Info: Rexzor. This is a split board - You can return to the Split List for other boards. And that’s also what allowed him to sense that Beerus was a GoD back in BoG. However, he’s so incredibly impressive that he can really use surf God ki. Does Jiren have god ki? SSJGPiccles 2 years ago #3. 214H is a half bar reversal against normals, but don't spam that either as it is easily punishable and you cannot make it safe if it doesn't catch anything. Jiren would later train and fight on his own, ultimately joining the Pride Troopers later on. Comment. Consumes half a Ki gauge. As the Kami of Earth, Dende has God Ki. Base Jiren (Low 2-C via statement of being > Zamasu). Jiren [Prime: One Million] was able to easily beat Super Hearts alongside Fused Zamasu (Universal Seed) who were both High Complex Multiverse Level with that form / state. I don't know if it's safe to say all of Frieza's species have high potential. If Goku can prevent Jiren from … Wiki Points. Jiren doesn't have God Ki. Traumatized by the losses he sustained in his past, Jiren sees companionship and togetherness as a sign of weakness, believing that the only person upon whom he can rely on is himself. How does Jiren and Golden Frieza battle godly ki users such as Goku and Vegeta? It doesn't matter if you have Godly Ki. 0. 20 He’s Stronger Than A God Of Destruction. How did anime Goku run out of power against Jiren. Measurement. Besides when they release GoD toppo where he wielded the power of a god of destruction. That was the whole point of his character. I know buffing them is out of the question, but what are the chances he gets the God ki tag? Yes. This move sends the opponent tumbling into the air, allowing for more follow-up attacks. He does not have the ability t o use God Ki. It turns out Kid Buu had God Ki hidden within him, but the question now is whether or not he used it way back when. Jiren notably also recreated multiple destroyed Stars, the Best part was that Jiren was able to match and beat Zandrak, who was the embodiment of God Ki itself. I’m pretty sure he’s there because it’s stated that he’s stronger than his own universe’s god of destruction, and therefore in the realm of gods. Once you get them to block, that's when the real fun begins. It gives him 4 new cards,50 Ki, restores his vanish, gives him 20% strike damage inflicted, and locks opponents in for 5 counts. With this power, Jiren can sense other people who has God-Ki such as the Super Saiyan God transformation. It does have more startup lag, however. , beating a deity isn’t a easy task , especially for a mortal , but these two have been shown to be able to despite their mortality!. Goku launches himself at jiren and discoveres that now Jiren needs to at least deflect his stricks, but it is still with one finger. 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